Sorry Y’all, but I will thank you in advance for being my therapist. I am trying to write factual and informing posts. I want as best as I can to show my/our frustrations.
A skill I have learned during the last 16 months is to control my reactions, and the reason this is such a necessity is that no one listens to emotion. You can be completely losing it..crying, frantic, freaking out, completely inconsolable and no one working in the justice system will show real concern.
People who have jobs that one would think would require them to have some compassion don’t have it. But really why would they? How hard would it be in your day-to-day life if you had a job dealing with crime victims and you were actually engaged to a point of feeling their pain. I am not saying that sarcastically either, I am being objective and sincere. If you had a job so closely related to people going through their darkest days and you let yourself get immersed in their grief it would eat you alive.
The problem with dealing with people who have these types of jobs is we aren’t on an even playing field with them. They know how to deal with us and we didn’t get a playbook. Beyond that we don’t even realize that there is a game going on, some of us figure it out around half time, and others they have no clue what just happened..
This treatment and the entire process brings out an anger in you that you never knew existed. To get that anger out you have to take charge and stick up for yourself. You have to become a force, it’s fight or flight. Some of us get in fight mode, and some wear blinders. Some of us write letters to the judge, and some think the fighters have lost their mind and need a long vacation.
I don’t care what anyone thinks, I do however care about my loved ones feelings, so I sometimes attack on the down low.
“I just like kept going and then I saw a car or a police car behind me and then that’s when I freaked out and was like I got to run into a pole a really sturdy pole or I could run into this car and go really fast I thought I could kill myself but I, I wasn’t planning on killing the other person umm that wasn’t my intention not at all I just wanted to hurt myself as bad as possible at the time. “
Is that a confession? Was the confession taken correctly? I am so confused so yes I am actually asking…
Question 1) What qualifies as a murder confession?
I am by all means not saying that Marilee is innocent…. But am I missing something? … I very well could be since no one really explains anything to me in this process. I get that she admits to doing what she did, but that statement highlighted above is all I see, that statement is what was provided to me. I do hope there is more, but where is it? And why do I not have it?
There’s more to this confession, but I feel that I need to dissect this and concentrate on one small, but significant portion at a time… and trust me this Is the big one. I will be sharing the other parts of Marilee’s interview. But from what I have been given this is it… this is her exact words on 6/30/2016 after killing Madi and Tyler. These are the words that directly correlate Marilee with their deaths.
I have had the Weber County police report since 8/2. The last week of September an attorney not involved with our case had agreed to look at everything and help out if he could. This attorney did give me the magic secret society lawyers club words that finally opened the forbidden passage way to my missing reports (FYI still missing Layton and Syracuse reports). Those magic words if anyone ever needs them are “complete file”. I was instructed to call my lawyer and say ” I need my complete file and I will be there at 3:00PM today to pick it up…. I was given these instructions on a Friday night and by 3:00pm the following Monday I had what I thought was my “complete file” .
Ok before I get into the next part I would like to explain that my intentions are not to look for something that the police detective did wrong. What I was after and what I did want to ask was….. Where did Marilee’s Dad go? He had been there… and I know I didn’t include the part of the police report that explains Dr. Gardner’s trip to the crime scene yet, but I will tell you what happened ….
Marilee had fled the seen, she ended up going to Winco which is on the same corner that the crash happened. She went in the store and called her father. He went and picked her up. He turned her over to the police, he spoke to one of the officers, he answered questions regarding what had happened that night and then he went home….
I do not see where her Dad had given permission for Marilee to be interviewed, if he did it’s missing from my reports. I looked for the following information because I am baffled at the fact that he handed her over and left. Again am I missing something? I don’t understand how this report ties anything together. I would think his permission would need to be documented…. This is a perfect example of the type of thing I am so frustrated over. The reports I have are choppy, they don’t tie together and they don’t make sense.
(d) No person other than a probation officer or a staff member of a detention facility shall be permitted to interview a child 14 years of age or older in a detention facility regarding an offense chargeable against the child without the consent of the child and the child’s parent, guardian or custodian after first advising said child of constitutional rights as described in Rule 26 and such rights having been knowingly and voluntarily waived by the child .
(e) If the child’s parent, guardian or custodian is not available, the consent of the court shall be obtained before interviewing a child in a detention facility.
In regards to the law highlighted above, again I am honestly confused. I really could only find this information, I have found other statements that contradict the above, but they have been on law firm websites. I am still trying to confirm. I think the above law might not apply because of the seriousness of the crime.
2) Are there exceptions to the laws regarding interrogation of minors depending on the seriousness of the crimes?
I am going to keep track of these questions as I write about all of the things I can’t wrap my head around, and there’s a lot!
SALT LAKE CITY – A judge ruled Thursday a teen facing murder charges for a crash that killed two people in Roy will be tried as an adult. Despite being just 16 years old, Marilee Gardner is facing two counts of first-degree murder. Back in June, Gardner allegedly drove her parents’ SUV, at nearly 100 mph, into the back of a Hyundai sedan. The two people inside that car, 20-year-old Maddison Haun and 19-year-old Tyler Christianson, were killed on impact. […]
I guess technically this really isn’t a tribute to Madi and Tyler, technically it was justice, but I don’t know that Justice exists or if it ever has.
Our Justice system seems to be taking something that has been shattered and trying to make it as whole again as you can. And sometimes you have all the pieces and you can glue everything back, but it will always have those visible scars showing where the broken parts were glued back in place. Sometimes the missing pieces are under the fridge and you can’t reach them nor do you have the strength to move the fridge and of course you have no one to help to move it. And sometimes all you have left is ceramic dust. As part of Madi and Tyler’s family I believe what we have left is the equivalent of ceramic dust…but we still do what we can.
That morning October 25th 2017 the sentencing for Marilee Gardner was to take place at 9:00 AM and of course I got there late. While arriving I was told that I had missed the instructions, to which I replied “I don’t listen to those anyways” , well that part is true but I would soon be seeing that I was not the only one, actually I kind of did listen this time around… well as far as the sentencing instructions and what I was aloud to say goes. I followed the rules (address only the judge, don’t look at Marilee directly or say her name while talking, talk directly to the judge), but others knew instinctively what they needed to say for all of us, and what they needed to say did not fall in line with the rules. I don’t want to say they broke the rules, because how dare they put rules on us, so I will say these family members felt so passionate about their thoughts and feelings that the rules didn’t apply.
At the very bottom of this post I placed what I said to the judge on Wednesday, what I said was from a blog post I had written at the beginning of the week it’s my What Madi Missed list. There are so many stories to tell from this day, and I will get to them, but first I need to share what some of the family said that day to the judge and to Marilee herself.
Do what is right even if you stand alone. This is how I would explain what Madi’s uncle Lee did on that day, with conviction he got up and said the raw unfiltered truth. Here is what he told her.
” You are a murderer but not only a murderer you are a thief. You stole something from me and my family and Tyler’s family. Your selfish actions robbed us. Through out my life many people have judged me because of their own perceptions of who I am. This was never the case for my nieces and nephews. Maddison said one day how proud she was of me and that she looked up to me for things I’ve done- you’ve stolen that from me. You stole my niece, their cousins, their daughter, their granddaughter and friend. Our hearts are broken and I don’t even know if you care or feel what you’ve done. You are a thief and I don’t forgive you today and I won’t forgive you tomorrow but eventually I’ll have to if I expect to be forgiven by the Heavenly Father. We will be there in court when you turn 21 to make sure you remember those that you stole from and the lives you took. Your attorney said to the judge to take into consideration Of how Significantly detrimental this is to Miss Gardner but I don’t buy that. This is not about feeling bad for you it’s about those you killed.”
I will never give up fighting for you Madi and Tyler’s Grandpa’s both went for the jugular, as my friends put it “they were savage”. They were both interrupted during what they were saying, but it was obvious to all that they were going to get their points across.
Tyler’s Grandpa talked about his relationship with his two grandsons, and I must say that when he talks about his grandsons I can tell they are his life.
He addressed the fact that from an outsider looking in it seems Marilee was maybe more privileged than our kids, but not more loved and that there may have been a lack of love from her parents.
He pointed out something I had also been told about which was a Facebook post from the 4th of July last year (4 days after the crash) from Marilee’s mother that said something about Marilee having a bad day, he also brought up Marilee’s father working for the Weber County Sheriff’s department and the disappointing way the case was handled. He said Madi and Tyler deserved better, and they did.
Madi’s Grandpa was full of rage, he talked about how he didn’t write anything because he couldn’t get everything in writing. He talked about how his life has stopped since Madi has been gone, he told Marilee that she robbed herself when she killed Madi because Madi would have been a friend to her, he called her a terrorist and told her that he hates terrorists. He said he will never forgive her.
Madi’s Grandpa got to talk for a few minutes, but Marilee’s lawyer stopped him, they asked him for a copy of his letter , they said they needed that if he were to continue, since he had already stated there was no letter he obviously wouldn’t be able to continue and the microphone was taken from him.
You took my sister. This one hurt me, not in a personal attack kind of way, but because I know and I see the reality of this, but what was said by Zoey was something I hadn’t had to hear prior to sentencing day.
My daughter Zoey had told me that she was not going to go to the sentencing, she had been saying it for months. I really felt that she needed to be there, but I wouldn’t and didn’t pressure her about it. I knew why she didn’t want to go, this is an incredibly hard thing to do.
Zoey and Madi were so ridiculously close and I feel that as far as day-to-day life goes Zoey’s life was the most affected by the loss of Madi’s
Zoey got up and told Marilee ” I hate you! You took my sister and I will never forgive you. My sister was my world and I don’t forgive you now and I won’t forgive you ever”.
Those words were heartbreaking to hear, they were what I already knew, but to hear them being said out loud was like a punch to the stomach.
You took my brother. Tyler”s brother did a really good job, it was pointed out to me that he was the only one who followed “the rules”, he sent a definite message. He let Marilee know that her selfish actions caused this, he also said the following which is exactly true. It’s something you can’t explain in words, but he did.
“There isn’t one specific thing you miss about a person that you have lost, you miss the person as a whole, who they were to you, in your eyes, Tyler was my brother. I miss Tyler, I miss my brother everyday, and I will everyday until the day I die.”
If you only knew how much those little moments meant to me. This is Marnie’s letter to the judge, Marnie did not read this out loud on Wednesday, but she does want everyone to know what Tyler meant to her. Marnie truly loved Tyler and he was hers. She will always fight for him and has been at every court hearing…. every single one…and I am so grateful for that.
Your honor, my name is Marnie. Tyler Christianson became my step son when he was around six months old. He came into my life with red hair and adorable chubby cheeks. Tyler called me Mom #2, a title I will always cherish. Tyler had a quiet demeanor about him and a great sense of humor, famous for his practical jokes. He loved working on cars, skate boarding and hanging with his friends.
He has a younger brother by three years Hunter who looked up to his older brother. They always looked forward to their boys trips with their grandpa and the all nighters they would have playing Xbox or PlayStation. Telling hunter his brother had been killed, watching the pain my son has gone through, has been the hardest thing as a parent I’ve had to endure. On June 30, 2016 our life’s changed because of one persons selfish choice.
I’m not sure what has been more difficult. For Tyler’s funeral trying to find the words to share with people, to put on paper words that could describe the love and emotions I have for Tyler. Choosing the right memories to share, so everyone could see how much he means to me. Or sitting here now trying to express the raw emotions of the constant pain of missing Tyler, knowing I will never see him again. To explain the loss, the hole that his death has left in my heart. The impact his murder has had on my life and my sons life. It would be like trying to describe a color to someone, it’s impossible to do, you can’t use words to describe this pain.
Having someone you love taken from you, in such a horrific, careless, selfish way. Seeing no remorse from Marilee Gardner for her actions, that have devastated our lives is heartbreaking and disturbing. She has robbed Tyler of his life. Losing a child is a different kind of grief. Hearing people talk about their children growing up, about their children’s experiences, knowing Tyler will never experience these. Collage, dating, marriage, children of his own, grandkids, holidays, growing old, birthdays. Tyler’s last birthday he celebrated was May 22, 2016 he turned 19. Tyler has no future, that was taken from him and our future with Tyler was also taken from us.
For the rest of my life I will have to visit my sons grave, on his birthday and holidays. I can only look at old pictures and watch old home movies from when he was little and the few recordings and videos his friends have sent, I will always cherish. It’s the only way I’ll hear his laugh or voice again. I only have the past and memories. There will be no more Silly texts, or those great big hugs he would give me. No more I love you’s. When we have family gatherings, vacations, Tyler should be with us. In pictures I can see where he should be standing. I feel like I have to put a mask of lies on, to get through those days. They are so emotional, it feels like a great weight sitting on my chest and I can’t breathe. But I have to smile and get through them for my other children and make everyone feel ok around me. But inside the sadness is over whelming. It’s sad, life does move on in the world, but my emotional mind is stuck on June 30 the the day he was taken from us.
Your honor, two irreplaceable lives were taken carelessly, selfishly on June 30, 2016. No remorse has been shown or heard, I hope justice is served and Marilee Gardner serves the full extent of punishment of her two sentences.
What Madi Missed
Family statement released 6/30/2016
Today our family lost our beautiful blue eyed girl with a heart of gold. She had big ambitions, loved music, enjoyed going to Bear Lake with her grandparents, and was a kind and loving soul. She accomplished a lot in her 20 years but now the world will never know the good she could have accomplished because she was taken from us too soon. We are grateful for the 20 years we had with her and thankful for the outpour of love and prayers for our families as we process this new reality for us, a world without her.
As we mourn for Madi we also see and feel many people mourning with us. We also mourn the loss of her friend who lost his life in the accident and for his family and their loss. We are sorry for your loss. In our sorrow, in time, we will find forgiveness for the driver that caused this senseless act that forever changed many lives. Our hearts also go out to her family.
Written by Uncle Lee
I started with the statement from that day 6/30/2016, I saw this yesterday for the first time since that day and started to reflect on it a bit. I still have not written my victim impact statement for Wednesday, I am really struggling, not because of the words, but because I am so disappointed in so many people and I do not know how to make my statement not be full of rage. Every time I start it goes immediately to my most angry place and I don’t honestly at this point think it is the time to share that, I feel off guard and that I am not ready. But one thing I can say that I have learned from this is that life doesn’t care if you are ready and some people seem to care even less than life does.
What Madi Missed
Looking at the statement that Madi’s uncle Lee wrote that day I got stuck on Bear Lake of all things. It just stood out, I started thinking about how my parents took my other two children to Bear Lake the week after Madi’s funeral. And I remembered how it felt when I met them there a few days later, it felt empty, it felt sad, it felt forced and unnatural because we were missing someone who should have been there and who would have been there so I decided to make a list of what Madi missed.
Madi missed a balloon release in hers and Tyler’s honor
Madi missed my birthday, and only by two days, yes Madi was killed two days before my birthday
Madi missed the family dinner at my cousin Jessie’s and Nikki’s house the Sunday after she was killed and she missed seeing their dog Norman the Newfie who is always a favorite with my kids
Madi missed her funeral and the Cage the Elephant concert that she had bought tickets for that happened to be on that same night
Madi missed the 4th of July
Madi missed the trip to Bear Lake the week after her funeral and several trips since then
Madi missed her cousin Jamie’s wedding, which I also missed because I couldn’t put one foot in front of the other that soon after her death
Madi missed her cousin Talia’s wedding
Madi missed her first day at Weber State University
Madi missed her Grandpa’s birthday
Madi missed Halloween which is always our families favorite
Madi missed Thanksgiving
Madi missed mine and Zoey’s Christmas trip to Vegas, although we wouldn’t have been there if we had still had Madi. We literally went and hid away because neither of us were ready to face a Christmas without her
Madi missed New Years
Madi missed her brother Diego’s 15th Birthday dinner
Madi missed her sister Zoey’s 18th Birthday and our trip to the Natural History museum of Utah and the Spaghetti factory
Madi missed her Grandma’s Birthday
Madi missed our family paint night
Madi missed Bark in the Park, this was a shared honor for her, but she still missed it
Madi missed her 21st Birthday, the one she had talked about so much in the four weeks between her birthday and when she was killed
Madi missed the horrible anniversary date of when she was killed, but we did not and I do not have or want a picture of this
Madi missed my birthday again and I spent some of it at her headstone because the two days prior was the anniversary date of her death and an overwhelming amount of flowers and gifts had been left to adorn her grave
Madi missed when her brother Diego bought his first car
Madi missed her cousin Taylor’s wedding
Madi missed her Uncle Jason’s Wedding and our big family trip to New England that we had been planning for the two years prior to her death.
Madi missed the sleepover at Uncle Lee’s new house with Zoey and her cousin Audrie
Madi missed getting our new puppy Leo, something she would have been so happy about and she missed all of the picture taking she would have done with Leo, Moo-Shoo and Flash, no one takes doggy pictures quite like Madi did
Madi missed shopping trips, going out to eat, going to see movies, looking for a new apartment with Zoey and me. She missed school, friends, concerts, tattoos, holidays. She missed the trips to Mesquite with her Grandparents and Zoey and Diego. She missed a lot, she missed too much.
This is a long list, but this is only a portion of what Madi missed. What we missed is Madi. She should have been with us through all of these things and more. When I look at the pictures we have taken since she has been gone it is plain to see what we missed and what we will always miss…. we miss Madi and she can’t be in our pictures anymore. Our pictures will always be without Madi and I think that says it all.
OGDEN, Utah — A teen girl agreed to a plea deal Wednesday after being accused of speeding into another car and killing two people last year when police tried to pull her over on her way to carry out a suicide pact. The 17-year-old pleaded guilty to a reduced count of attempted murder and will […]
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OGDEN, Utah (ABC4 Utah) – A 17-year-old pleaded guilty to attempted murder in the death of two young people. Source: 17-year-old sentenced to juvenile detention for deaths of two
Ogden • Marilee Gardner wept Wednesday as she apologized for ramming her car into another vehicle on a June night last year, killing the two occupants inside. “I am so sorry,” Gardner cried, as she explained that she was depressed and had hoped the crash would cause her own death — not the deaths of […]